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| superperfectnerd | Apr 27 2017, 01:37 AM Post #1 |
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As it stands now, who do people consider to have the most potential, if they trained/were trained like Goku. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Apr 27 2017, 01:42 AM Post #2 |
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I've not really seen anything that has contradicted Gohan having the most potential. We still get confirmation of this in both the anime and manga of Super around the universe 6 arc. |
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| SSJ | Apr 27 2017, 01:46 AM Post #3 |
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Tenshinhan by far. You could see his true potential based on his factual growth during the Boo arc. Training in the mountains for 7 years got him from < Freezer to =< Gotenks Boo. |
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| + PocketGoggu | Apr 27 2017, 01:47 AM Post #4 |
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Gohan had his potential brought out far, far, far beyond it's limits by Elder Kaioshin. Personally, I'm going to say Freeza has the most natural potential out of everyone. Training to God tier in four months is not something to be sneezed at. |
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| + Son-Goku | Apr 27 2017, 02:15 AM Post #5 |
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Honestly I'd say Cabba. Since he's a saiyan it's kind of hard to say his age, but he is at a ridiculous level without any god training whatsoever and who knows what kind of battles or training he's been through, probably nothing too big. I doubt he's been in any rough battles based on his attitude fighting Vegeta and not being able to transform into a Super Saiyan. |
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| superperfectnerd | Apr 27 2017, 02:23 AM Post #6 |
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For me, everything that made Gohan special has diminished greatly except for a couple of throw away lines about him having great potential by characters who are not infallible. If base Goku is indeed stronger than ssjg after his fight with Beerus and Cabba can give a decent fight to a base and ssj Vegeta who is even stronger than that whilst also being green enough to not know ssj and not be very battle hardened, then every indication is that his potential is waaaaaayyyyyy greater than Gohan's. Also, Boo surpassed an even stronger ase Goku in a couple of hours and this isn't even the most powerful form of Boo. So my vote goes to Boo, (specifically Super Boo) based on what the show presents. I don't like it but that's the way it looks right now. Only reason for Goku and Vegeta to be the strongest now is that they undergo the best training/rituals and try much, MUCH harder than everyone else. Edited by superperfectnerd, Apr 27 2017, 02:23 AM.
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Apr 27 2017, 02:33 AM Post #7 |
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Eh, we've seen Gohan's "potential" reset after multiple dormant power unlocks. There's no reason to assume that he suddenly can't reset anymore, especially when Super even confirms in some degree that it has. The gap from SSJ2 Gohan to Ultimate Gohan is FAR less than the gap between Namek Gohan and SSJ2 Gohan. That Gohan is tapped out honestly is one of the most ludicrous claims I've ever seen on a dragonball forum. Edit: From the BoG character bios to Dragonball Super itself still claiming that Gohan has the most dormant power amongst the Saiyans. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Apr 27 2017, 02:40 AM.
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| superperfectnerd | Apr 27 2017, 02:47 AM Post #8 |
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What I don't understand about Gohan is that why does he have more potential? What for? The first hybrid saiyan just happens to have it and the next two just happen not to? If Gohan is a one in a million fluke, it seems statistically unlikely that the very first hybrid would have this potential. Doesn't make sense mathematically. I know Im overthinking it but it doesn't. I always just assumed Chi Chi's insistence that fighting is bad made his power more repressed and would only be revealed during moments of rage. Wheras Goten and Trunks were free to fight as much as they want and had influence from sronger characters like ssj2s, androids and super Namekians. Plus, they had each other to spar with. Also, there's that guidebook exert which states that Trunks and Goten are the 'tailless hybrids' with the most potential because they have evolved to not need them. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Apr 27 2017, 02:50 AM Post #9 |
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I would say that Trunks proves that hybrids in general have high dormant powers. He's able to contend with post God Goku and Vegeta in similar forms with barely any training (let's be honest, the guy is spending most of his days rebuilding society, not doing push ups.)
Not saying you're wrong on that last bit, but would you be able to point to which guidebook in specific? I remember the Diazenshuu series states that Gohan and Goten have the same dormant power roughly. |
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| superperfectnerd | Apr 27 2017, 02:54 AM Post #10 |
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DragonBall Daizenshuu 4 – World Guide - databook (1995, Shueisha Inc.), endorsed by Toriyama Akira. Edited by superperfectnerd, Apr 27 2017, 02:55 AM.
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| superperfectnerd | Apr 27 2017, 02:55 AM Post #11 |
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| Griffzilla | Apr 27 2017, 03:38 AM Post #12 |
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That depends on what we define as potetial. Cohan has a lot of potential to be powerful but he is also potentially one of the weakest of the group. To me it incompasses much more. It also takes the drive and motivation. How many drug addicts have the potential to be doctors and lawyers but don't? That's why for me it's always going to be Goku. |
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| dragonballzshirts | Apr 27 2017, 09:04 AM Post #13 |
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Going with Gohan. It will always be the case, he is meant to be the strongest by Toriyama for a reason. If the fans could grow a pair and let the story be written it would have been so. Either way I would say he is one of a million in that his situation growing up afforded him his potential. Thus, excusing Goten and Trunks, so it's not simply a half breed thing. They had each other to train and not as much pressure in general. Regardless it's fine to assume he just had more overall pure talent and power than them anyway. That is how he was shown throughout Dragonballz and it ended with an epic destruction of Cell. The Buu arc totally screwed him with his scholar ways but redeemed him with Mystic Gohan, which still made sense with his huge potential. So he hadn't reached maximum yet with SSJ2, that was cool. This power leaves room for what happens if he uses it with SSJ or SSJ2 just like Goku suddenly decided to use Kaioken in SSJB which was previously thought not possibly in SSJ. re He has since effectively lost touch with that Mystic power since Buu as shown in Resurrection F and I guess Battle of Gods too and since. So to see him rise in potential is not unacceptable. Anyone else, sorry no. No on else has any business. If we're finally going to get the savior that was meant to be, it's Gohan. That is who Toriyama wanted. So hopefully fans can get with it or get told to screw off this time. Because the nonsense Gohan has been doing so far is ridiculous unless they redeem him. He is the most logical choice for a crazy power boost and the most acceptable. He does and always has had more potential than any other Sayian. Goten and Trunks may be more "evolved" but it still doesn't matter. It just means they have access to major transformations but it doesn't necessarily amount to the same sort of power. Very clearly them both as SSJ could barely take on Android 18 back in the day in the tournament. So they started strong but haven't necessarily done anything since. So in this situation the one who holds the most potential is logically as always Gohan. It is perfectly acceptable that he is woken up by a quick training session because he's gone through the real training or sitting whatever, before. He just basically needs to grow his pair again which is basically dangling already. So he better impress in the near future of Super. Otherwise it will be the most disappointing decision they make. More than many of the ones they already have made. This one is more obvious and to make it now is honestly idiotic. Means they don't give a crap what anyone says and aren't paying attention to anything fans are saying. That being said this is based on knowing characters from DBZ. So Whis yeah potential wise he is the Angel and stronger than even Beerus. Next, Beerus is the God of Destruction so his potential can be much higher, we don't know, he may also be at his limit. Hit, he has been shown to increase his limits very quickly, while fighting it self shown in the last tournament. Outside of that I don't think anyone fits the bill. Maybe Freeza but that's it. Goku and Vegeta, already trained and are where they're at. Goten and Trunks, not very serious and haven't shown they are something amazing individually (Yes SSJ, but straight powerwise). As Gotenks is a different story. Piccolo, Android 17, 18 - Not stronger than Goku or Vegeta and show no reason to have a potential to do so. God Power is something that seems beyond them. Maybe Piccolo get's some random something someday. But regardless how the 17 vs Goku fight went down we have to assume Goku has a lot more to give, or his God form is like a Cod form. Cell - Get's his power from the cells of everyone he's been created with. The potential for increase is minimal unless he's Zenkai boosting his way there. That's a different story. I don't see him being able to train that kind of power. Buu - Also came off as having a set kind of power. I don't think he can simply train so the argument of him training in a few hours to fight Goku SSJB is invalid. Changing his body shape doesn't mean anything. And clearly everyone was able to fight with SSJB Goku, so that doesn't make sense. BUu may be learning better techniques and learning to move faster but potentially stronger, I don't see it. He seems to have a pretty set limit as Fat Buu. Cabba - The whole evolved thing I think is silly. Being evolved doesn't mean he has a higher potential at all. They might have evolved to be weaker very easily. Yeah he turned SSJ with Vegeta getting it out of him. But like Goten and Trunks it may not amount to much in comparison. Or they are naturally stronger and could whoop Freeza but their ceiling is low. Either way I don't think it's smart to assume they are stronger, nor should they be. They didn't live the warrior race lifestyle in a sense so they don't have access to the same power or mindset as Goku and Vegeta. It's like if you visited a random country and couldn't drink they're water. You drink water bottles but the locals drink right out the tap. They've evolved where they're used to that and they're body takes it. You would get sick to your guts. Doesn't mean anyone is stronger. It's just environment. It's just perspective who's better off. Anyway this whole thing is designed for the "Redemption of Gohan"! That is what need's to happen, this tournament or soon after. I don't know how long DragonBall Super lasts, but that is a priority. The only thing that makes sense. He can't be left like he is lol. |
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| SSB Vegito | Apr 29 2017, 11:33 PM Post #14 |
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Trunks , definitely, and I'd like to see everyone who hadn't voted for him reply to me. He went from being trash to Cell tier to overpowering Merged Zamasu. Merged Zamasu is still>>>>Goku as far as we know so yeah. Future Trunks has feats. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Apr 29 2017, 11:47 PM Post #15 |
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Future Trunks and Gohan seem to have the greatest potential. |
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